![Survivors of abuse by members of French clergy, Veronique Garnier, Olivier Mardi, Jerome Guillement, Bertrand Virieux, and Jean-Marie Delbos, pose together during a press conference after a nearly two-hour meeting with Pope Leo in Lourdes, France, September 27, 2026 [Clotaire Achi/Reuters]](/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/2026-09-27T193446Z_1795176521_RC2VRNA0ELTO_RTRMADP_3_POPE-FRANCE-LOURDES-ABUSE-1790544821.jpg?resize=770%2C513&quality=80)
Pope Leo XIV has thanked a group of survivors of clerical abuse âÂÂfor their painful testimonyâ and âÂÂreaffirmed his commitmentâ to end harm by Catholic priests at a meeting in southwestern France, the Vatican said.
The leader of the worldâÂÂs 1.4 billion Catholics is on a four-day visit to France.
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On Sunday, the pontiff visited the pilgrimage town of Lourdes, where he privately met seven survivors of child abuse, now adults, and promised to further efforts to reform the Church in the wake of the global sexual abuse scandal.
The group said in a later news conference that the meeting was emotional and touching.
âÂÂWhen he saw the state I was in, he took me into his arms,â survivor Jean-Marie Delbos said, adding, âÂÂIt was an extraordinary moment.âÂÂ
The 80-year-old was abused as a pupil at the nearby boarding school of Notre-Dame de Betharram, where staff have been accused of physical and sexual abuse over several decades.
The survivors said they felt heard and that they were impressed by LeoâÂÂs compassion and knowledge of their individual cases.
But they hoped the words would be accompanied by action.
Jerome Guillement, who has written about a priest abusing him as a teenager, said at the news conference that the pope understood the âÂÂsystemicâ nature of sexual abuse in the Church.
âÂÂFrom his point of view, the perpetrators are individuals, but what allows it to continue is the systemic dimension within the institution,â he said.
âÂÂHe certainly believes that the Church has done a great deal in France, but he also believes that the Church in France still has a tremendous amount left to do.âÂÂ
![Pope Leo participates in a candlelight procession at the Sanctuary of Our Lady of Lourdes as part of his four-day apostolic journey to France, in Lourdes, France, September 27, 2026 [Stephane Mahe/Reuters]](/wp-content/uploads/2026/09/2026-09-27T202553Z_140704132_RC2VRNAYDPZJ_RTRMADP_3_POPE-FRANCE-1790546103.jpg?resize=770%2C513&quality=80)
Local leaders hoped LeoâÂÂs visit would help repair the ChurchâÂÂs standing after a 2021 independent inquiryàfound that some 330,000 French children had been abused by Catholic clergy and lay leaders over seven decades.
The pope told an estimated 150,000 people gathered for a Mass in a field near the famed Catholic shrine in Lourdes earlier on Sunday that the Church must have the courage to face its past.
Veronique Garnier, another survivor who met with the pontiff, said she had found the Mass, in which Leo referred to abuse without directly apologising for it, troubling and wondered why she had attended.
But she said she was encouraged by her meeting with Leo.
âÂÂI do indeed believe there is hope â hope that there can be change and truly listening to us at a deep level, rather than just superficially with beautiful words that are never followed by any real action,â she said.
Leo also spoke about the abuse scandals in a closed-door meeting with French bishops on Sunday, according to a Vatican-provided text.
He was expected to visit the northeastern city of Metz on Monday before returning to Rome the same day.
