More on the Stranglers, who are showing impressive staying power given that they only appeared here by mistake. âÂÂI think the Stranglersâ tune [sic] that MUFC are looking for here,â says John Stedman, âÂÂis Something Better Change.âÂÂ
âÂÂMBMâÂÂs curse?â says Dave Estherby. âÂÂNothing, nothing, would be funnier than Utd 1-11 Villa this afternoon...âÂÂ
Ha, well, one manâÂÂs joke is another manâÂÂs poison.
More on those United protests. âÂÂNot sure if youâÂÂre aware, or how widespread it is,â says Jemma Robinson, âÂÂbut lots of season ticket holders âÂÂsent backâ their tickets today which is why the match was on general sale (never happens) and thereâÂÂs also supposed to be a walkout at 21 minutes, so will be interesting to see which one is more successful and whether youâÂÂll see it emptying or an Old Trafford filled with non-regulars.â That last eventuality might not be easy to spot.
âÂÂHoping Carrick does well given heâÂÂs one of my Man Utd favourites, but torn as the club ownership/general situation is awful.âÂÂ
Jemma, I suspect you speak for millions of fans.
Sunderland have clung on to beat Chelsea 1-0, which is a great result for them. And yet another embarrassment for Man United. They now have fewer wins than any other team in the Premier League â just the one, against Ipswich, back in August.
A draw today will take them above Sunderland on goal difference, but theyâÂÂll still be in the bottom three. To lift them out of the relegation zone, and the league doldrums, only a win will do. If they manage it, they will go roaring up to 16th.
For Villa, who are 12th as it stands, a draw will be enough to get them into the top half of the table, above Newcastle and Spurs. And a win will launch them into the top eight, above Brentford and Leeds.
Full table here.
The second email is picking up on the first. âÂÂI think Rick was actually thinking of âÂÂNo More Heroes' by The Stranglers,â says Will Cook, âÂÂwhen referring to Manchester United.âÂÂ
Fair enough, in the league â but Matheus Cunha produced some heroics against Roma, didnâÂÂt he?
Instant correction! Palace won a penalty in added time to make it 1-3, so United now need to avoid defeat by ten goals to stay off the bottom.
United will not be bottom of the table tonight. TheyâÂÂve been rescued by their old friends Liverpool, who are now 3-0 up at Selhurst Park thanks to Alexander Isak. PalaceâÂÂs goal difference has sunk to -15, so United will stay above them as long as they can avoid losing by an 11-goal margin.
The first email comes from Rick Harris. âÂÂI imagine Unai Emery as a Stranglers fan,â he says, âÂÂsinging âÂÂShould I stay or should I goâ every day on the way to work. Staying at Villa is accepting that he is a second tier manager. Going to United is a gamble but it is his best chance of joining the elite managers club. WhatâÂÂs the worst that can happen? Get sacked after a season and a half and go back to Villareal?âÂÂ
ThatâÂÂs a good point, and much more tactful than Jamie Carragher. But, at the risk of being pedantic, I thought it was The Clash?
Things must be bad at United: thereâÂÂs a Booze Boycott. Several groups of fans, including The 1958, have got together to say âÂÂReclaim our colours [the green and gold]. Direct the anger at the ownership.â And⦠âÂÂDo not buy drinks inside Old Trafford.â If youâÂÂre there, do let us know whether this is having an impact.
Manchester United (probable 4-2-3-1) Lammens; Dalot, Yoro, Maguire, Mazraoui; Mainoo, Tielemans; Amad, Fernandes, Cunha; Mbeumo.
Subs: Darlow, De Ligt, Heaven, Dorgu, Santos, J Fletcher, Mount, Lacey, Zirkzee.
Aston Villa (4-2-3-1) Suzuki; Lindelof, Harwood-Bellis, Torres, Maatsen; Kamara, Goretzka; Alysson, McGinn, Manzambi; Jackson.
Subs: Bizot, Bogarde, Mings, Cisse, Barkley, Mbaye, Buendia, Hemmings, Madjo.
Unai Emery makes three changes. At the back Taylor Harwood-Bellis, once of Man City, gets his first go for Villa in the league after four midweek games. In midfield Leon Goretzka replaces Joao Gomes, and further forward Alysson comes in for Emi Buendia.
Michael Carrick makes only two changes, both enforced. Noussair Mazraoui replaces the suspended Lisandro Martinez, which probably means a reshuffle with Leny Yoro reverting to his natural habitat at centre-back. Youri Tielemans replaces the injured Carlos Baleba, as he did in midweek before playing his part in UnitedâÂÂs revival. The home crowd, already restive enough, will be disappointed not to see Shea Lacey given a start.
Afternoon everyone and welcome to the Lindelof-Tielemans derby. ItâÂÂs the last Premier League game before the international break, and it could be the last game for Michael Carrick as Manchester UnitedâÂÂs head coach. The man who lifted his old club to third is now also the man who has led them to third from bottom. The table giveth and the table taketh away.
CarrickâÂÂs overall record is still better than most of the managers he has faced. In the PL table since he returned in January, United are third. Of the 17 clubs to be there last season and this, only four have won half their games in that time â Arsenal and Man City obviously, plus Man United and Brighton.
CarrickâÂÂs problem is that UnitedâÂÂs form was dismal for seven weeks, from the red card Phil Foden was given in the Manchester derby on 13 September to the one Lisandro Martinez was given at Stamford Bridge last weekend. Since then they have mounted a rousing comeback to beat Roma, handing their supporters a sliver of hope. In the league, though, they are still winless since beating Ipswich in August. Their only consolation is that in the recent-form table (last three games for each club), they are not the worst team in Manchester. They have one point, whereas City have none.
Aston Villa, meanwhile, have had a season of three thirds. They started with a whimper, lost three of their first four league games and slumped to 19th. Then they won six out of seven in all competitions and gave everyone else a helpful demonstration of how to beat Man City. But VillaâÂÂs last three results have been disappointing, with a draw at home to Fulham sandwiched between batterings at Bournemouth and Barcelona.
Did anyone think either of the bad spells might be the downfall of Unai Emery? They did not. And rightly so, as he has rebuilt his team in no time since losing four stars at once in Morgan Rogers, Ollie Watkins, Youri Tielemans and Ezri Konsa. If pundits speculate about his job it is only to suggest, sometimes unprintably, that he might leave it to join United. That would be the sort of move that was known in Yes, Minister as âÂÂbrave⦠very braveâÂÂ.
The upshot is that, once again, all the pressure is on Carrick. He will be keeping a wary eye on the 2pm scores and praying for a few draws because anything else is lose-lose. United donâÂÂt want to see Liverpool or Chelsea pull further away, but they canâÂÂt afford to be overtaken by Palace or Sunderland. If theyâÂÂre bottom of the table tonight, this most likeable of managers will surely be sacked in the morning.
